BMW 535i(S38) Turbo Drift 1008Hk / 1340Nm
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BMW 535i(S38) Turbo Drift 1008Hk / 1340Nm
Hello. Lot of nice Turbo projects here in PPF and I thought to write one of mine. I started looking for a new drift car project after selling my old E30 Turbo drift car and founded an unfinished E34 project with M30B34 engine and bought it in spring 2010.
I had it running in fall 2010 giving:
550hp/850Nm @ 1.7Bar
402m : 12.3s@203km/h (Street Tires)
Small video with the M30 engine:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sz8VYF5g9eI
Like always more power was needed and started buildin a S38B36 engine in fall 2011. Here are the specs of the engine and the car:
Engine (EDIT 2014):
- S38B36.
- Oil injection for pistons.
- New standard crankshaft.
- Wiseco pistons, 8.5 compression.
- Spm Rods.
- ARP Head/Rod bolts.
- Navalinea sport cooppering gasket.
- Head, JR-Tehokansi (Head porting etc..), Ferrea rst Exhaust Valve +1mm.
Turbo race Camshaft (Exhaust, M.Virtanen) Opening in TDC 2.5mm, Standard Intake Cam.
- Turbo plenum.
- Holset "Pro55", water cooled.
- Bosch EV14 2000cc injectors
- 2 x 044 Bosch fuelpumps.
- Dewils Own water injection.
- AN 10/6 Fuel lines.
- PPF support griddle.
- 4.5" Downpipe /3.5" to the back.
- E85 Fuel
Engine management:
- Autotune (MSQ3) Full segvential.
- Vag Cop units.
- Solenoid Boost Control.
- VEMS O2 + EGT
- Water injection by MSQ3
Drivetrain:
- "Ojennus" flywheel.
- Sachs SR200 Clutch.
- GS6 53BZ 6-speed (E92 M3)
- Typ. 210 Diffrential.
- Camber/ Toe adjustin.
Chassis:
- Roll Cage.
- Seats/6-point belts.
- Hydr.handbrake.
- Koni Sport.
- Momo
- AutoGauge
Etc..
Video collection:
2013:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWS_BERoXm0
2014:
http://youtu.be/yAEfFZL7YUs
EDIT 2014!
ENGINE:
Old M30 Engine:
I had it running in fall 2010 giving:
550hp/850Nm @ 1.7Bar
402m : 12.3s@203km/h (Street Tires)
Small video with the M30 engine:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sz8VYF5g9eI
Like always more power was needed and started buildin a S38B36 engine in fall 2011. Here are the specs of the engine and the car:
Engine (EDIT 2014):
- S38B36.
- Oil injection for pistons.
- New standard crankshaft.
- Wiseco pistons, 8.5 compression.
- Spm Rods.
- ARP Head/Rod bolts.
- Navalinea sport cooppering gasket.
- Head, JR-Tehokansi (Head porting etc..), Ferrea rst Exhaust Valve +1mm.
Turbo race Camshaft (Exhaust, M.Virtanen) Opening in TDC 2.5mm, Standard Intake Cam.
- Turbo plenum.
- Holset "Pro55", water cooled.
- Bosch EV14 2000cc injectors
- 2 x 044 Bosch fuelpumps.
- Dewils Own water injection.
- AN 10/6 Fuel lines.
- PPF support griddle.
- 4.5" Downpipe /3.5" to the back.
- E85 Fuel
Engine management:
- Autotune (MSQ3) Full segvential.
- Vag Cop units.
- Solenoid Boost Control.
- VEMS O2 + EGT
- Water injection by MSQ3
Drivetrain:
- "Ojennus" flywheel.
- Sachs SR200 Clutch.
- GS6 53BZ 6-speed (E92 M3)
- Typ. 210 Diffrential.
- Camber/ Toe adjustin.
Chassis:
- Roll Cage.
- Seats/6-point belts.
- Hydr.handbrake.
- Koni Sport.
- Momo
- AutoGauge
Etc..
Video collection:
2013:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWS_BERoXm0
2014:
http://youtu.be/yAEfFZL7YUs
EDIT 2014!
ENGINE:
Old M30 Engine:
Last edited by PPmotor on 24 Jun 2017, 18:06, edited 10 times in total.
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Re: BMW 535i(S38) Turbo Drift
upload you pictures @ http://www.imageshack.us
then you can share them in a better size
Sounds like a cool project
Best Regards
then you can share them in a better size
Sounds like a cool project
Best Regards
Bmw e30 M5 Turbo
http://www.garaget.org/?car=213993" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.garaget.org/?car=213993" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: BMW 535i(S38) Turbo Drift
Dajb wrote:upload you pictures @ http://www.imageshack.us
then you can share them in a better size
Sounds like a cool project
Best Regards
Yes. Thank you.
When installing the PPF griddle i had to make some room for the oil pump sprocket. Did i do something wrong?
By ppmotor at 2012-09-02
Power2Drift Team
Re: BMW 535i(S38) Turbo Drift
Sure this is the correct sprocet for S38? If so the M30B35 sprocket is smaller i guess..
http://bimmers.no/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=193878 Mitt 635 csi turbo prosjekt
Re: BMW 535i(S38) Turbo Drift
Oberland wrote:Sure this is the correct sprocet for S38? If so the M30B35 sprocket is smaller i guess..
In fact the pump i used is from M30B34 because its the same as in S38B36, only the sprocket is diffrent and that is what i changed from S38.
S38:
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do ... g=11&fg=30
M30:
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do ... g=11&fg=30
Power2Drift Team
Re: BMW 535i(S38) Turbo Drift
Use the spocket and chain from B35 or grind!:)
http://bimmers.no/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=193878 Mitt 635 csi turbo prosjekt
Re: BMW 535i(S38) Turbo Drift
Had the car running and dyno tuned.
Results(Whp):
628Hp/678Nm@1.0Bar
710Hp/779Nm@1.35Bar
The injector Duty cyckles started to be around 100% so couldnt use bigger pressure. The fuel pressures were fine and didn´t drop, so i guess the Bosch 1700cc limits were reachd?
http://youtu.be/GtzzZv4JMdk
Results(Whp):
628Hp/678Nm@1.0Bar
710Hp/779Nm@1.35Bar
The injector Duty cyckles started to be around 100% so couldnt use bigger pressure. The fuel pressures were fine and didn´t drop, so i guess the Bosch 1700cc limits were reachd?
http://youtu.be/GtzzZv4JMdk
Power2Drift Team
Re: BMW 535i(S38) Turbo Drift
PPmotor wrote:Had the car running and dyno tuned.
Results(Whp):
628Hp/678Nm@1.0Bar
710Hp/779Nm@1.35Bar
The injector Duty cyckles started to be around 100% so couldnt use bigger pressure. The fuel pressures were fine and didn´t drop, so i guess the Bosch 1700cc limits were reachd?
http://youtu.be/GtzzZv4JMdk
Is this effect from your S38?
/ Mvh
Mattias Skoglund
Mob: 0763-493494
2009: 575whp samt 740wnm 1,4bar. M30B35
2010: 842whp samt 983wnm 1,8bar. M30B35
Mob: 0763-493494
2009: 575whp samt 740wnm 1,4bar. M30B35
2010: 842whp samt 983wnm 1,8bar. M30B35
Re: BMW 535i(S38) Turbo Drift
Pitbull wrote:PPmotor wrote:Had the car running and dyno tuned.
Results(Whp):
628Hp/678Nm@1.0Bar
710Hp/779Nm@1.35Bar
The injector Duty cyckles started to be around 100% so couldnt use bigger pressure. The fuel pressures were fine and didn´t drop, so i guess the Bosch 1700cc limits were reachd?
http://youtu.be/GtzzZv4JMdk
Is this effect from your S38?
/ Mvh
Yes it is?
Power2Drift Team
Re: BMW 535i(S38) Turbo Drift
100% duty with 1700cc and E85?? fuel pressure at 3 bar or?
nissan micra 1000cc turbo 122whp 174wnm 1,2bar
http://forum.savarturbo.se/viewtopic.php?t=42959" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://forum.savarturbo.se/viewtopic.php?t=42959" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: BMW 535i(S38) Turbo Drift
E34 RRT wrote:100% duty with 1700cc and E85?? fuel pressure at 3 bar or?
There was a false in the MS3 tuning program showing the Duty Cykles wrong. The reality was 87% in 1.5Bar, but still thinking to change bigger ones (2200cc?). Litle wet surface burning before going to rest for winter:
http://youtu.be/Vnbg_hOHR7o
Power2Drift Team
Re: BMW 535i(S38) Turbo Drift
Oooooh the sweet sound of an s38
Aaah det är rätt stökigt...
0709-854845.
0709-854845.
Re: BMW 535i(S38) Turbo Drift
megasquirt....
nissan micra 1000cc turbo 122whp 174wnm 1,2bar
http://forum.savarturbo.se/viewtopic.php?t=42959" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://forum.savarturbo.se/viewtopic.php?t=42959" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: BMW 535i(S38) Turbo Drift
Hello.
Litle update here too. The car is running great now and have had fun with it driving some drifting and others. Also few problems counterd:
Changed the wasted spark system to a Vag Cop units lasth mont for better spark. Also had some tuning issues with the partial throtle (going rich) compared to WOT. We had to include the tps/rpm map in the side of map based tuning so now its combined tables for fuel amount. Running now 1,65Bar of boost giving about 900hp.
http://youtu.be/TWS_BERoXm0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Litle update here too. The car is running great now and have had fun with it driving some drifting and others. Also few problems counterd:
Changed the wasted spark system to a Vag Cop units lasth mont for better spark. Also had some tuning issues with the partial throtle (going rich) compared to WOT. We had to include the tps/rpm map in the side of map based tuning so now its combined tables for fuel amount. Running now 1,65Bar of boost giving about 900hp.
http://youtu.be/TWS_BERoXm0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: BMW 535i(S38) Turbo Drift
Nice sound!
Audi S5 B8 4.0t
E30 325ix M50 turbo 840awhp 7 speed DCT.
M50 764whp @ 1.7 bar.
M20 675whp @ 2.2 bar.
E30 325ix M50 turbo 840awhp 7 speed DCT.
M50 764whp @ 1.7 bar.
M20 675whp @ 2.2 bar.
Re: BMW 535i(S38) Turbo Drift
Hello.
Some updates here also.
Summer 2013 ended with a broken gearbox.The 280 Getrag couldn't handle any more.For a replacement, came the GS6-53BZ from a E92 M3 -09. This 6-speed gearbox should be wery strong for what i have heard. Had some problems first with the weldings of the bell housing, but then decided not to mess around and made it strong enough.
Gearbox:
Winter 2014 came and just litle modifications to the car.
Changed the suspension to BC Racing BR (front springs 18Kg & Rear 14Kg):
Fixt up the rear axle with strongflex bushings and welded the camber/toe adjustin sprackets.
Also changed the oil radiator to a new setrab and placed it behind the kindeys and some of the hoses were also changed to make the engine bay look smoother.
Not so much driving happened in 2014 summer because of the gearbox problems but finally got it on the track. Also went for work a couple of weeks with it
Video from summer 2014:
http://youtu.be/yAEfFZL7YUs" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Botniaring:
Winter 2015:
Thinking of changin to a Garrett GTX 4202R turbo. Any comments on this?
The oem clutch releaser should be changed to a tilton hydraulic release bearing.
Some minor mods also coming, V8 kidneys, more steerin angle etc..
Some updates here also.
Summer 2013 ended with a broken gearbox.The 280 Getrag couldn't handle any more.For a replacement, came the GS6-53BZ from a E92 M3 -09. This 6-speed gearbox should be wery strong for what i have heard. Had some problems first with the weldings of the bell housing, but then decided not to mess around and made it strong enough.
Gearbox:
Winter 2014 came and just litle modifications to the car.
Changed the suspension to BC Racing BR (front springs 18Kg & Rear 14Kg):
Fixt up the rear axle with strongflex bushings and welded the camber/toe adjustin sprackets.
Also changed the oil radiator to a new setrab and placed it behind the kindeys and some of the hoses were also changed to make the engine bay look smoother.
Not so much driving happened in 2014 summer because of the gearbox problems but finally got it on the track. Also went for work a couple of weeks with it
Video from summer 2014:
http://youtu.be/yAEfFZL7YUs" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Botniaring:
Winter 2015:
Thinking of changin to a Garrett GTX 4202R turbo. Any comments on this?
The oem clutch releaser should be changed to a tilton hydraulic release bearing.
Some minor mods also coming, V8 kidneys, more steerin angle etc..
Power2Drift Team
Re: BMW 535i(S38) Turbo Drift
Hello. Couple of years and no updates, but here we go:
2015 Summer:
Speed Weekend one mile:
https://youtu.be/7f00Y3ldscY" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Bimmerparty 2015 , 650m speed 245km/h:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMKLpcsu6Hs" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
2016 happened nothing mutch, but something...like:
Broke two 12,9 main stud bolts from 2 diffrent bearing shells. Luckily no harm done. Arp bolts for replacement and some maintenance to oilpump and done.
2017:
Added 3rd bosch 044 pump and some modifications to the fuel lines:
Engine bay nowdays:
Went to dyno in AJ Tech:
1008,8Hk / 1342Nm
https://youtu.be/6PWD4qYHUZA" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The car nowdays:
2015 Summer:
Speed Weekend one mile:
https://youtu.be/7f00Y3ldscY" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Bimmerparty 2015 , 650m speed 245km/h:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMKLpcsu6Hs" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
2016 happened nothing mutch, but something...like:
Broke two 12,9 main stud bolts from 2 diffrent bearing shells. Luckily no harm done. Arp bolts for replacement and some maintenance to oilpump and done.
2017:
Added 3rd bosch 044 pump and some modifications to the fuel lines:
Engine bay nowdays:
Went to dyno in AJ Tech:
1008,8Hk / 1342Nm
https://youtu.be/6PWD4qYHUZA" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The car nowdays:
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