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Posted: 14 Sep 2007, 18:53
by Vision79
maleckis wrote:
TEAM SKÖN RACING wrote:
NORMIND wrote:
TEAM SKÖN RACING wrote:
NORMIND wrote:haha... så han fick den inte såld eller försökte han aldrig ?


Patte?

Han är en velpelle ;) , men vi kanske måste tänka om lite ang vevstakar o kolvar...3,2 är trots allt en ganska dyr motor att skjuta :(

Vi får se...diskuteras med folk som har lite susning at the moment :)


jo var ju han jag menade...

kan ju vara en bra ide att få den att hålla då... sen spelar det väl inte så stor roll om det är en billig eller dyr motor är ju lika tråkigtendå när det rasar för att man snålat...


Ja..ja tror nästan vi får ändra lite i schemat :? ..dock till d possitiva! :lol:

Ngn form av H-profilstake samt en smiddkolv typ Wössner eller Wiseco kanske..nya lager i bottendelen osv.

Vet ej vad vi ska köra för packning...har en 3mm Mls nu men den blir väll ev till salu alt kanske vi kan byta in den mot en i std storlek...Pyramidringa är ett alt men kanske "overkill" på detta bygge...men vi får se :)

Har ni ideer o funderingar så Shoot!!!


What are you talking about, guys? :wink:
When will you start turbocharging? Are you going to upgrade clutch, pressure plate, etc.? Now I have everything stock and clutch slips sometimes. I would like to think all possibilities over. I read somewhere that putting pressure plate from BMW 3.0d is a good idea. What do you think?

Regards,
Chris.


I think we will get some Sahcs pressureplate...cant tell exact wich one..possible the 765 with some small mods..PPF got what we need i hope 8)

Before we were talking about the pistons...our goal of 600hp is probably only a dream if using std pistons...i guess we have to upgrade these..so we r talking about this.

In about 2weeks were the plans to start booosting...now we have to wait for some bearings , rods and pistons + a new "smaller/thinner" MLS gasket..thats the new plans i guess..ass mentioned prettyy stupid to blow a S52 when risk is pretty big going oem..

Posted: 14 Sep 2007, 20:24
by Flaxis
Bäckis wrote:600hp with stock pistons??

Talk to wallin on this forum, he tried....

I belive that 400 i safe, 500 will last for a while and 600 will be a short but funny time running the engine with booooost.


Wallin åker förvisso 3,0:a , är det identiska kolvar så när som på borret?
//Flaxis

Posted: 14 Sep 2007, 21:05
by wallin
Bäckis wrote:600hp with stock pistons??

Talk to wallin on this forum, he tried....

I belive that 400 i safe, 500 will last for a while and 600 will be a short but funny time running the engine with booooost.


ja fråga gjärna mej !.
jag har lärt mej den hårda vägen!
många roliga stunder och många :evil:
så här ser mitt projekt ut iaf http://www.garaget.org/?car=42081

Posted: 14 Sep 2007, 21:15
by maleckis
Bäckis wrote:The 3.0D has a weak clutch that often fails on stock cars with just chiptuning, so I belive that it's a bad idea.

I meant a pressure plate. Is it also so weak?

Jonas, what pistons and rods did you order? I look forward to reading news about your project.

Posted: 14 Sep 2007, 22:25
by Vision79
maleckis wrote:
Bäckis wrote:The 3.0D has a weak clutch that often fails on stock cars with just chiptuning, so I belive that it's a bad idea.

I meant a pressure plate. Is it also so weak?

Jonas, what pistons and rods did you order? I look forward to reading news about your project.


Hey Maleckis..

We didnt deside yet...but we done some affairs with PPF in past and with my car, and it works good every time so, looks it could be some Wiseco pistons and possible SPM rods for this, i will keep updating when news r avaible.

Patte was here today and we spent an hour infront of the cpu and youtube watching some Bmw turbo´s....getting some inspiration ;)

Posted: 16 Sep 2007, 11:33
by bmw patrik
wallin wrote:
Bäckis wrote:600hp with stock pistons??

Talk to wallin on this forum, he tried....

I belive that 400 i safe, 500 will last for a while and 600 will be a short but funny time running the engine with booooost.


ja fråga gjärna mej !.
jag har lärt mej den hårda vägen!
många roliga stunder och många :evil:
så här ser mitt projekt ut iaf http://www.garaget.org/?car=42081

Hej Wallin
Hur mycke tändning kör ni med vid max laddtryck och max effekt.
Mvh Patrik

Posted: 16 Sep 2007, 16:15
by wallin
har inte det i minnet men kan kolla med frank som mappade bilen så tar vi det via pm så vi inte sabbar tråden för killarna

bmw patrik wrote:
wallin wrote:
Bäckis wrote:600hp with stock pistons??

Talk to wallin on this forum, he tried....

I belive that 400 i safe, 500 will last for a while and 600 will be a short but funny time running the engine with booooost.


ja fråga gjärna mej !.
jag har lärt mej den hårda vägen!
många roliga stunder och många :evil:
så här ser mitt projekt ut iaf http://www.garaget.org/?car=42081

Hej Wallin
Hur mycke tändning kör ni med vid max laddtryck och max effekt.
Mvh Patrik

Posted: 16 Sep 2007, 17:36
by Vision79
wallin wrote:har inte det i minnet men kan kolla med frank som mappade bilen så tar vi det via pm så vi inte sabbar tråden för killarna

bmw patrik wrote:
wallin wrote:
Bäckis wrote:600hp with stock pistons??

Talk to wallin on this forum, he tried....

I belive that 400 i safe, 500 will last for a while and 600 will be a short but funny time running the engine with booooost.


ja fråga gjärna mej !.
jag har lärt mej den hårda vägen!
många roliga stunder och många :evil:
så här ser mitt projekt ut iaf http://www.garaget.org/?car=42081

Hej Wallin
Hur mycke tändning kör ni med vid max laddtryck och max effekt.
Mvh Patrik


Det är Patriks bil/tråd/projekt, så d förstörs inget :lol:

Posted: 18 Sep 2007, 06:14
by Vision79
Det som ska inhandlas inom kort:

Kolvar
Stakar
Tryckplatta
Sinterlamell
Turbotrycksmätare

Nya bakdäck :)

Posted: 29 Sep 2007, 08:59
by Vision79
Nya tag och nya ideer..:)

Jag tror Patte o PPF har smusslat bakom min rygg o gnidit ide´r :)

Kolvar och stakar ska vara beställda som jag förstått , en koppling och lamell ligger kanske med i samma lista d vet jag inte säkert.

Så fort kolvarna etc börjar närma sig Avesta ska vi hinka ur S52:an och riva den i molekyler, repa o renovera det som behövs.

Det pratas oxå om att uppgradera turbo till en GT35R för att minimera chansen för högt mottryck.

Den som vet säkert kan väll bekräfta ? :)


/J (uppdaterar 3st projekt trådar idag )

Posted: 05 Nov 2007, 20:36
by Vision79
Då började väll det första rycket med bilen.

Kom även på att jag har en Walbro pump 255lph som vi troligast kompleterar med orginalpumpen och kör i serie, beprövat och fungerar!.

Motorfäste snart klart som MangeB tilverkat dublett på samt en"plenumplatta" oxå fixat, ska tiggas dit när motorn är ur.

Uppdaterar löpande.

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Smock...1st front borta!

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Patte på hugget o hamrar på med hitachin!

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Lika bra o fortsätta :)

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Just ja...nyfylld AC...d ryker gött d ;);)

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Tjena kompis...senap ketchup?!? :shock: :shock: ..ut med 130d´n!!

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KLART FÖR DAGEN!

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Posted: 05 Nov 2007, 21:52
by maleckis
I’m happy you have started the job. Good luck and I hope you will keep us updated :wink:. I have recently blown a head gasket in my M3 and today I got back the cylinder head from a machine shop. You can read more in Fear This's thread.

What pistons and rods have you chosen eventually?

Vision79 wrote:Då började väll det första rycket med bilen.

Kom även på att jag har en Walbro pump 255lph som vi troligast kompleterar med orginalpumpen och kör i serie, beprövat och fungerar!.

Motorfäste snart klart som MangeB tilverkat dublett på samt en"plenumplatta" oxå fixat, ska tiggas dit när motorn är ur.

I don't know if I understood correctly… Are you going to use Walbro fuel pump and stock one? Both in a fuel tank or inline?

Best Regards,
Chris.

Posted: 05 Nov 2007, 22:06
by Vision79
maleckis wrote:I’m happy you have started the job. Good luck and I hope you will keep us updated :wink:. I have recently blown a head gasket in my M3 and today I got back the cylinder head from a machine shop. You can read more in Fear This's thread.

What pistons and rods have you choose eventually?

Vision79 wrote:Då började väll det första rycket med bilen.

Kom även på att jag har en Walbro pump 255lph som vi troligast kompleterar med orginalpumpen och kör i serie, beprövat och fungerar!.

Motorfäste snart klart som MangeB tilverkat dublett på samt en"plenumplatta" oxå fixat, ska tiggas dit när motorn är ur.

I don't know if I understood correctly… Are you going to use Walbro fuel pump and stock one? Both in a fuel tank or inline?

Best Regards,
Chris.


Sorry Chris...i forget ur reading the thread 8)

We will go with the stock M3 intank pump + a inline walbropump in a serie, regulated with a Aeromotive fpr or similar !

Cheers!!

Posted: 05 Nov 2007, 22:35
by maleckis
No problem. You don’t have to translate everything :lol:. If I would like to get to know something I hope I can ask you.

... and what about pistons and rods? Which one have you ordered? What are their specs (I mean: piston bore, piston stroke, rod length, piston’s compression ratio)?

Good night,
Chris.

Posted: 05 Nov 2007, 22:44
by Vision79
maleckis wrote:No problem. You don’t have to translate everything :lol:. If I would like to get to know something I hope I can ask you.

... and what about pistons and rods? Which one have you ordered? What are their specs (I mean: piston bore, piston stroke, rod length, piston’s compression ratio)?

Good night,
Chris.


I think Andreas here at PPF can answer that question regarding lenght/dim of pistons and rods, but brand is SPM rods and Wiseco pistons.

/Jonas


P.s as told before..iam not the owner of the car..just the writer in this thread and also a friend to Patrik :)

Posted: 06 Nov 2007, 22:32
by Vision79
Ok, lets do it for Chris ;)

hehe..

Today we kept sorting out and disconnected wires and such to clear out for lifting the engine out.

Engine should be in the mont before friday 2000 ;)

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Patte feels exited...soon soon :)

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He kneels to the big engine...

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Mr MPOWER him self....the beast...;)
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So finaly i would like to end this day by saying...the Motorsport division of BMW that builds these engines aint some kids picked from the street..this is art and true racing thinking behind everything...its really a damn sexy engine :)


Cheers!!

Posted: 07 Nov 2007, 20:57
by Vision79
Update:

Today´s 2 hours of work were mainly under the car and pull bolts from the gearbox/engine so we can lift with gearbox still in car.

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Of course "murphy" were in the garage as well so we got some "nuts" to break :)...swedish joke...or something..*ehm* :?

But after standing with my head in the boxes in the shelf i found some special tools to pull the last 2 bolts on top of the gearbox *puh*..very good this isnt the first bmw that have been tuned in this garage ;)

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Just at that happy moment Patrik said on swedish..."Allt går utom trasiga klockor o små barn" ;) ...dont know how to translate in english so for those of u doesnt understand....read a book or dont bother ;)

but we were happy strungling this mess out with the bolts :)...so we pulled the exhaust apart and the ox sensors away :)

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Tomorrow or on friday the "holy M" is leaving the engine bay for a while.

Stay tuned!

Peace out and holy smoke god bless u all tire burners and turbofreaks ;)

/ J & P